http://venturebeat.disqus.com/News about Tech, Business and InnovationenFri, 31 Jul 2009 19:23:23 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-13763371<p>Excuse me, just popped in to have a momentary temper tantrum over the increasing use of interactive advertising in iPhone apps (especially pop-ups that block further use of the application until give input). Just so you know, on principle, I NEVER give such input, but instead delete the application. Goodbye app, and good riddance to it's ads.</p><p>Advertisers and business/entrepreneurs carrying bags of money and promises are playing a nice little game of musical chairs with each other, while we (the consumers) sit on the sidelines, annoyed and eagerly waiting for someone to trip and break their neck. We (yes, I speak for everyone on Earth) are sick of advertising. It's so prolific as to make it meaningless. I wonder if those ads on the floor (yes, on the floor; you can't even shoe-gaze anymore) of my local big-box home center actually result in sales, or are they there because some ad sales team snickeringly sold it to some big-box exec who actually thought it was a clever idea.</p><p>Here's my clever marketing idea: ads on the insides of eye-glasses. Isn't it the ultimate goal that wherever we look, we'll see an ad? What an even more messed-up world it will be when some soulless marketing upstart takes that suggestion seriously. </p>GuestFri, 31 Jul 2009 19:23:23 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674348<p>Wasen't gmail counter fake as well in the beginning? I remember leaving the page open for a week and my storage didn't grow.</p>RamonWed, 07 Nov 2007 06:45:17 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674347<p>Still don't get it how all this stuff about Are the mobile advertising upstarts out of control? can affect it...</p>Blog Comment PosterThu, 30 Aug 2007 16:54:56 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674346<p>Thanks, Matt. Interesting read and I hope this is a wake up call for all of us in the mobile marketing space. It should be!</p><p>After spending over a decade in the wireless data world and witnessing the promise of network speeds and user adoption finally meeting expectations, the last thing we need in the nascent market of mobile marketing is false proof points. We all need to act responsibly to ensure success for all stakeholders and most importantly, the end customer receiving content we are creating and sending.</p>GreggTue, 17 Apr 2007 15:11:23 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674345<p>While we are on the topic of behing honest...</p><p>Try capturing the headers from a country targeted admob campaign. Cross reference the IP address or X_UP_SUBNO. You will find that many of the targeted ad's are not actually targeted(i.e. French targeted campaign will on occasion give Verizon wireless header). We saw a 10% discrepency. I am not sure if that is good/bad for a mobile ad network but we were surely still paying the targeting fee. I see a problem if people are selling premium content and their ad gets served to places they cannot deliver or bill. I also saw a good amount of 'web' requests which meant either someone was using a web browser and clicking the mobile link or they were surfing wap with WiFi..</p>Another Tip OffMon, 16 Apr 2007 13:14:53 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674344<p>i use <a href="http://www.create-ringtone.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.create-ringtone.com">www.create-ringtone.com</a> to create and send FREE custom ringtones, wallpaper, mp3 and video files to cell phones around the world</p>steve campelMon, 16 Apr 2007 12:07:55 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674343<p>Steven, good question! Judging from what I've seen, they seem too impressive to be real! Eric, can you clarify how your marketplace "operates differently"?!!</p>kennySat, 14 Apr 2007 23:55:37 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674342<p>Eric, since transparency is such as a pillar of importance -- what do you mean my a simulation, were the numbers posted there previously TRUE or FALSE?</p>Steven ReanSat, 14 Apr 2007 13:26:08 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674341<p>As the SVP of Marketing for Millennial Media I also want to ring in support for truth and transparency in advertising. As mobile advertising is still in its early stages we think third party validation and delivery of objective metrics will be key to the industry’s growth.</p><p>Transparency is as important a pillar of our offerings as reach and relevance, so we also thought we should clarify that we posted the illustration of our Marketplace on our site to simply show how our Marketplace works, not to mislead. After the confusion was brought to our attention we updated the page immediately to clarify it as a simulation. Our Marketplace operates differently than other offerings so it is important to demonstrate it visually.</p>Eric EllerSat, 14 Apr 2007 12:57:32 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674340<p>whoops, delete the last period in the link above to view that blogposting from admob. My mistake!!</p>kennySat, 14 Apr 2007 12:45:57 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674339<p>Admob is an incredibly classy company - see this post on their ceo's blog calling for more clarity about this exact issue: <a href="http://admob.blogspot.com/2007/04/lies-damn-lies-and-statistics.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://admob.blogspot.com/2007/04/lies-damn-lies-and-statistics.html">http://admob.blogspot.com/2...</a>. I have been a customer for 5 months now and have been consistently impressed with their quality and clarity. Their network is very real and gives me an excellent ROI, much better than google or third screen!!! I encourage any interested advertisers or publishers to check them out. Now, if they would only let me have a commission :)</p>kennySat, 14 Apr 2007 12:23:37 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674338<p>no worries. love your post. keep up the solid work.</p>MSat, 14 Apr 2007 12:07:12 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674337<p>Thanks for calling me on all the errors. Big apologies. The glitch was caused by switch to a new version of wordpress -- which published a draft version before I was able to do a more complete fact check!</p>Matt MarshallSat, 14 Apr 2007 11:41:47 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674335<p>As the CMO of Third Screen Media, I applaud your call for “truth in advertising” and strongly agree that mobile advertising will never realize its full potential without the adoption of third party research that quantifies, validates and measures the market opportunity and its performance. To this end, Third Screen Media has been in the forefront of working with marketers and their agencies to support and integrate third party research providers into our mobile ad management and delivery platform.</p><p>I’d also like to clarify the difference noted in your post between the 175 million available (sellable) US-based ad impressions in TSM|Network – our mobile ad network (which at the end of Q1 2007 has increased to 225 million) from the 350 million impressions that our servers register from our ad tags across all publishers, including not only the TSM|Network, but also the publishers and carriers who have licensed our MADX ad management and delivery software to sell and manage their own mobile ad inventory on a worldwide basis.</p><p>Jeff Janer<br>jjaner@thirdscreenmedia.com</p>Jeff JanerSat, 14 Apr 2007 11:12:36 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674334<p>Matt... good article -- needs corrections. correct the piece. here are the ones I found in my quick read. all the best.</p><p>"that gives the impression it is scroll all the new ads"</p><p>"keeping ads a nice high rate"</p><p>"If these sorts of randomized counter are being"</p><p>market place</p><p>is a blatant copycat</p><p>Just two weeks Admob raised</p><p>holding their feed to the fire</p>MSat, 14 Apr 2007 08:27:23 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674333<p>I love the site and it's content; but, you must proof-read the work before publishing. There are many errors in the above work. Please do both grammar and spell checks.</p>HaroldSat, 14 Apr 2007 01:52:47 -0000http://venturebeat.com/2007/04/13/are-the-mobile-advertising-upstarts-out-of-control/#comment-14674332<p>So Decktrade as a service totally false? Is it the service or just that they falsified the numbers?</p>Steven ReanSat, 14 Apr 2007 00:44:28 -0000