VentureBeat - Latest Comments in Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

jvincent — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:34:48 -0000

Okay were finally getting good wether

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jvincent — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:47:43 -0000

I finally manged to sign on

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swag — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:31:26 -0000

Screw them both. Six months I'll jump on the next bandwagon while they both die a horrible death of quaint Internet antiquity.

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Erik S. — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:39:58 -0000

I think it is a mistake to make too much of comparisons of Twitter's small userbase to Facebook's huge userbase. It's like saying a pizza tastes better than a supermarket. Both have something to do with food, but on a completely different scale.

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Engago team — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:50:54 -0000

The recession (or depresssion) will take care if there is no business model.
If Spielberg can't get funding for his movies, who is going to fund free services?

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

wecandobiz — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:35:32 -0000

Twitter won't see the pinnacle of its success until it is easier to use. Those of us who "get it" know that you never visit the website but use a third-party app; and that you don't actually tell anyone what you are doing because no-one wants to read that. But how do new visitors know that? How many people go and look at the Twitter website, wonder what the fuss is about and then leave? My guess is that their conversion rate on visitors is a fraction of what Facebook enjoys.

Make it MUCH more apparent to new users where the power is in Twitter use -- not to mention perhaps bundling all the useful stuff together up front so people can get effective quicker -- and things would be a whole stack different.

That said, I am against mixing friends and work, so I will probably forever use Facebook AND Twitter. Friendfeed I also use, but it takes all its updates from Twitter...

Ian Hendry
CEO, WeCanDo.BIZ
http://www.wecando.biz

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Eliiott — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:31:51 -0000

Aside from Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed have revenue of $5.99. Just enough to pick up a six pack of Coors. Please explain who the hell uses FriendFeed. I Also have a Twitter account but only because other people do. Are these companies going to drive revenue or just cater to nerds looking at new technologies.

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

nocturnu — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:04:55 -0000

Apple haters never sleep and do not relent. Nice photo MG.

Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'm going to continue posting to Facebook through my twitter feed. I don't have the time to do both quite frankly. Recently, I think I am getting way more value out of Twitter than Facebook.

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MG Siegler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:22:08 -0000

Ha yes, thanks for that backhanded compliment.

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MG Siegler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:19:52 -0000

Poor people still bleed, no?

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MG Siegler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:18:54 -0000

Maybe, it's Christian Bale from the great American Psycho.

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seanmacdhai — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:39:15 -0000

Twitter is more than just "status updates". It is an online community of folks that blog short messages with each other, sharing their lives. Facebook opening up their status updates will not impace Twitter because each service attracts a different kind of user.

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Gadget Sleuth — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:46:31 -0000

There can be more than one, but in this climate, can there be more than one truly dominant site? I'm not so sure.

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

K-party — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:05:41 -0000

I'm very impressed. When you're not writing about Apple, the blinders come off and you do damn good non-biased analysis.

/backhanded compliment

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Jason — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:34:26 -0000

There can't be too much blood spilled when no one's profitable.

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Marcos Nobre — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:22:12 -0000

I find that the least important question. Twitter is like throwing/crashing a party which everyone can crash/throw without disturbing anyone. FB is just an ordinary party, invitations only. Feel it?

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John — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:21:17 -0000

Is that Brett Petersel's pic from mashable? Great pic.

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patricia — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:15:51 -0000

There will always be room for more than one message board.

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Santosh — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:56:50 -0000

Excellent posts. I think all the sites are going to survive. I noticed a site www.ping.fm and it is sending updates to all twitter like accounts you have. Some of the twitter clones are better than twitter. Only thing missing is the popularity.

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marshal sandler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:52:08 -0000

Shout out for Fred Wilson who really understand Game theory and General Semantic's
Korzybski's work held a view that human beings are limited in what they know by (1) the structure of their nervous systems, and (2) the structure of their languages. Human beings cannot experience the world directly, but only through their "abstractions" (nonverbal impressions or "gleanings" derived from the nervous system, and verbal indicators expressed and derived from language). Sometimes our perceptions and our languages actually mislead us as to the "facts" with which we must deal. Our understanding of what is going on sometimes lacks similarity of structure with what is actually going on. He stressed training in awareness of abstracting, using techniques that he had derived from his study of mathematics and science. He called this awareness, this goal of his system, "consciousness of abstracting." His system included modifying the way we approach the world, e.g., with an attitude of "I don't know; let's see," to better discover or reflect its realities as shown by modern science. One of these techniques involved becoming inwardly and outwardly quiet, an experience that he called, "silence on the objective levels."

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Matt Shaulis — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:47:37 -0000

"But it's got some Labrador in it."

--From 'Up In Smoke'

Tommy Chong speaks these famous words to cult icon, Cheech, while they smoke a contraband cigarette containing dog feces. Cheech had not realized (until that point) that excrement was involved. Hilarity ensues.

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

marshal sandler — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:37:01 -0000

Platforms may be king but content wears the Crown. Chicken Apps are at a low level of Abstraction ! Hamlet Survives will the promoters of chicken app's ! Thanks for the reply !

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

--From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)

Queen Gertrude speaks these famous words to her son, Prince Hamlet, while watching a play at court. Gertrude does not realize that Hamlet has staged this play to trap her and her new husband, King Claudius, whom Hamlet suspects of having murdered his father. She also does not realize that the lady who "doth protest too much" is actually herself, as the Player King and Queen represent King Hamlet and Queen Gertrude. The former will be poisoned (in this play within the play) by the king's brother, as in reality (Hamlet suspects) Claudius killed King Hamlet. Gertrude's statement is in response to the play-Queen's repetitive statements of loyalty to and love of her first husband.
"HEH "
half laugh, semi-cynical connotation, used on IRC by those too cool to say lol or roflmao

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

optionshiftk — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:53:45 -0000

Facebook is a glorified address book, something Jason Calacanis has harped on quite frequently. The demographic of facebook users is very unsophisticated computer users who can't even seem to manage to delete "is" when writing a status message. The twitter crowd is a different breed.

Re: Facebook and Twitter: There’s blood everywhere, but no one is dying

Jeff Pester — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:49:07 -0000

I guess the good news for everyone in this space is that people are really passionate - for one/the other/ both/or neither! And they're interacting with each other in groups/networks/conversations that were mostly unavailable until relatively recently. Yeah, I think (most) everybody wins playing in this sandbox.

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warzabidul — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:40:51 -0000

We saw it the day SMS notification in Europe was cancelled. From that day on Twitter in Europe was no longer mobile, until a few weeks to months later when a variety of mobile solutions were offered. The US elections were an opportunity for twitter to play with some new features and see whether they had an audience.

Now we see a third change. as more and more celebrities come to the web and the fans come to listen, but not yet participate. More and more people are trying to sell what they're doing rather than engage with the individuals.

I went back to some video of the first London meetup and when asked how many people they were following people went as low as to say they're following just 20 people. Now people who have been on twitter for a month and a half have three thousand. That would lead us to believe that twitter is no longer about giving your status to a select group of strangers. Now it's marketing to the masses.

That's part of the reason I moved to plurk a few months ago and to Friendfeed more recently, to get back that sense of community, and engagement.