VentureBeat: Jangl’s new angle on phone calling
PaulSweeney
· 3 years ago
It is a good idea though because people fear SPIT, SPEW and SPAM (sounds like Kellogs Rice Crispies). Being able to have "do not call" type functionality on your IP phone may well prove useful. However, add inserts into phone based communications have to the best of my knowledge, never worked. The service could have value in an IP calling world where you offer to mediate between two people or parties that find each other online so that you can retain some control over who calls you and when. THink Match.com:You call someone, talk, talk some more, and only then do you give permission for that person "to see" your number, or even call you back "though the service". It could also be the equivalent to having a "phone certificate" where at the very least I know that your online "IP number" is traceable, and perhaps that you are who you say you are. However, this entire area may very well be subsumed under companies offering idendity management and protection tools.
allyson
· 3 years ago
I ike that idea of Jangl and I cn't wait to use it.
allyson
· 3 years ago
I ike that idea of Jangl and I cn't wait to use it.
web20guy
· 3 years ago
Interesting Idea. But is Phone Spam such a big problem already?
Kevin Burton
· 3 years ago
Wow. This is HUGE. I totally plan on using this once I get back to the states (I'm in Thailand now).
I do NOT want the NSA doing social network analysis on my phone calls. I don't for a MINUTE believe that they're not listening my calls but they've admitted that they're doing social network analysis on the numbers dialed.
Anyway.... I'll totally pay for such a service and plan on being a customer as soon as possible :)
Keep up the good work guys!
Nadia
· 3 years ago
Kevin,
I like talktrust.com. It's already open for business and provides many features over and above just the dating. By the way, you could use talktrust while you are in Thailand? Give it a try..
Nadia
Joel
· 3 years ago
Anonymous calls is a good thing. "Free" is also a good thing!
I have been using TalkTrust for over a month now.
And sorry Jangl, but you ain't no TalkTrust yet.
If you wish to call me, go ahead. My TalkTrust number and extension are: (415)-234-5678 ext:469155
Cheers! Joel
Michael Cerda
· 3 years ago
Well...I wasn't going to say anything after the first talktrust person posted, but now that there are two I feel obliged. Talktrust assigns you a phone number and an extension. This extension allows users to certainly post a number, or hand out a number. Users can also receive voice mail, delivered by e-mail. So ok, someone calls my talktrust extension and leaves me a message, I listen to it on my computer, and then what? I call the person back and they get my real number by caller ID? It defeats the purpose.
Our first iteration of closed beta was similar to this. By listening to our users and using some common sense, it didn't take long to realize consumers don't want to hand out phone numbers + extensions, and their callers certainly don't want to go through the hassle of doing this everytime they make calls. We also learned that consumers don't want yet another place to go check voice mail. And...we also learned 1-way privacy is only 50% private.
These are just some of the reasons jangl isn't like talktrust. But believe me there are more. I'm just not tellin' yet.
-MC
Joel
· 3 years ago
Hi! MC,
As per your comments, I don't think you quite get it yet re: TalkTrust :)
With TalkTrust, I can direct incoming calls to my landline, mobile or internet phone. For each call both - the caller and I - don't need to share numbers and remain anonymous (100% mutual privacy).
I can't speak for your claimed customer study, but I can tell you this for sure.
I sell my expertise on open-source tools and I have clients asking to remain anonymous. With TalkTrust's mutual privacy on contact, I am expanding my services to these clients easily. In this case, I choose NOT to remain anonymous, but wanted to point out how the buyer's anonymity translates to more $$ for me.
On the other hand, as a seller on eBay and Craigslist, I choose to remain anonymous. I have sold my motorcycle recently using TalkTrust, and let me tell you - when you get "DarkRider" calling you to talk about your bike, you WANT to remain anonymous on contact! :-)
NET: I love TalkTrust's ability to let me receive calls from any phone, provide me with multiple extensions to manage different groups, and provide mutual privacy per call.
As and when you show me what really works in Jangl -I'll be happy to check it out.
Meanwhile, I like what TalkTrust does for me and love their team's skill and responsiveness in taking my feedback and continuing to build more value into it for all.
Cheers, Joel
Michael Cerda
· 3 years ago
What do you do when DarkRider calls, leaves you a message, and you need to call him back? Does talktrust give you a way to mask your caller ID? From my using of the service, the answer is no. This is what I mean by 1-way anonymity.
For your application though, given you make money from people calling you for advice, you might consider Ether. Their roots are in Ingenio, who's made a living helping experts sell advice.
-MC
Ashok Paddy
· 3 years ago
Hi
Can one get rid of the Land Line completely. Will Jangl depend on any of the Broad band service prividers.
How do we use Jangl using a Mobile Phone ?
Can this be used to make International Calls like any of the VOIP services ? If yes how will it be priced amd the modus operandi?
Tried to register by providing the email address but your site refused to accept!!!!!
Michael Cerda
· 3 years ago
Ashok, jangl is not a phone replacement service a la the VoIP providers or mobile carriers. That said, jangl is agnostic to the type of phone you have or use. We don't require broadband. All we require is that you have at least one phone service. Calls that come into your jangl #s will forward to your phone of choice. We'll be saying more soon, as we haven't launched just yet. As for beta registration, we're certainly accepting registrations, but for the July timeframe.
-MC
chris
· 3 years ago
i came here from techdirt and i think it's great that they are using VOIP for more than just a cheap replacement for the phone. don't know how useful it will be, but on the wild days of the dot com bubble "if you build it, they will come"
as a 2001 era DotCommie i hope wish these guys the best. hopefully the world is nicer to startups this time around :-)
Nizar
· 3 years ago
The so called disposable number is a blatant lie. It should actually be called �recyclable number�. When I think of disposable, I think toilet papers. What worries me most is the recycled number circulating through bad guys and finally approaching my teenager. Instead of creating safety, it would actually create a nightmare. I see tossabledigit, privacall, talktrust.com getting into this business with so called extension. I think it�s safer to use extensions that never gets reused�
My 2 cents. Nizar
Somya
· 3 years ago
Ashok,
I have been using TalkTrust.com to talk to my folks back home. It works like a charm and also supports using an ATA so that you don't have to be PC tethered. Comes with FREE softphone if you want to give it a try. With TalkTrust, you can also forward calls to your landline/mobile phone as well as globally using the internet phone.
Nizar-jangl is nothing like any of these companies you and Somya are referring to. Our users get relationship based phone numbers, which work in both directions, protecting the user's privacy 100%, not just 50% which is what these other guys are doing. We haven't launched, so all I can ask is that you reserve judgement for now. I think you'll realize jangl is more about liberating your communications rather than aiding the creeps in their creepdom. We bridge the communication mode you have come to love online, to the phone channel.
-MC
Rob Wolpov
· 3 years ago
I am not sure I understand what is unique about this service. We (junction networks) run a sip based phone service with a forwarding feature. Calls can be forwarded anywhere the user likes. What is different about Jangl? If you are using a SIP service, you can have an unlimited number of numbers, sip addresses, etc, pointed at any phone number, cell phone number, sip address, etc.
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I do NOT want the NSA doing social network analysis on my phone calls. I don't for a MINUTE believe that they're not listening my calls but they've admitted that they're doing social network analysis on the numbers dialed.
Anyway.... I'll totally pay for such a service and plan on being a customer as soon as possible :)
Keep up the good work guys!
I like talktrust.com. It's already open for business and provides many features over and above just the dating.
By the way, you could use talktrust while you are in Thailand? Give it a try..
Nadia
"Free" is also a good thing!
I have been using TalkTrust for over a month now.
And sorry Jangl, but you ain't no TalkTrust yet.
If you wish to call me, go ahead.
My TalkTrust number and extension are:
(415)-234-5678 ext:469155
Cheers!
Joel
Our first iteration of closed beta was similar to this. By listening to our users and using some common sense, it didn't take long to realize consumers don't want to hand out phone numbers + extensions, and their callers certainly don't want to go through the hassle of doing this everytime they make calls. We also learned that consumers don't want yet another place to go check voice mail. And...we also learned 1-way privacy is only 50% private.
These are just some of the reasons jangl isn't like talktrust. But believe me there are more. I'm just not tellin' yet.
-MC
As per your comments, I don't think you quite get it yet re: TalkTrust :)
With TalkTrust, I can direct incoming calls to my landline, mobile or internet phone. For each call both - the caller and I - don't need to share numbers and remain anonymous (100% mutual privacy).
I can't speak for your claimed customer study, but I can tell you this for sure.
I sell my expertise on open-source tools and I have clients asking to remain anonymous. With TalkTrust's mutual privacy on contact, I am expanding my services to these clients easily. In this case, I choose NOT to remain anonymous, but wanted to point out how the buyer's anonymity translates to more $$ for me.
On the other hand, as a seller on eBay and Craigslist, I choose to remain anonymous.
I have sold my motorcycle recently using TalkTrust, and let me tell you - when you get "DarkRider" calling you to talk about your bike, you WANT to remain anonymous on contact! :-)
NET: I love TalkTrust's ability to let me receive calls from any phone, provide me with multiple extensions to manage different groups, and provide mutual privacy per call.
As and when you show me what really works in Jangl -I'll be happy to check it out.
Meanwhile, I like what TalkTrust does for me and love their team's skill and responsiveness in taking my feedback and continuing to build more value into it for all.
Cheers,
Joel
For your application though, given you make money from people calling you for advice, you might consider Ether. Their roots are in Ingenio, who's made a living helping experts sell advice.
-MC
Can one get rid of the Land Line completely. Will Jangl depend on any of the Broad band service prividers.
How do we use Jangl using a Mobile Phone ?
Can this be used to make International Calls like any of the VOIP services ? If yes how will it be priced amd the modus operandi?
Tried to register by providing the email address but your site refused to accept!!!!!
-MC
as a 2001 era DotCommie i hope wish these guys the best. hopefully the world is nicer to startups this time around :-)
It should actually be called �recyclable number�.
When I think of disposable, I think toilet papers.
What worries me most is the recycled number circulating
through bad guys and finally approaching my teenager.
Instead of creating safety, it would actually create a nightmare.
I see tossabledigit, privacall, talktrust.com getting into this business
with so called extension. I think it�s safer to use extensions that never
gets reused�
My 2 cents.
Nizar
I have been using TalkTrust.com to talk to my folks back home. It works like a charm and also supports using an ATA so that you don't have to be PC tethered. Comes with FREE softphone if you want to give it a try.
With TalkTrust, you can also forward calls to your landline/mobile phone as well as globally using the internet phone.
Try http://www.talktrust.com. It's FREE
Somya
-MC