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VentureBeat: Marketocracy lets you place money with the best

  • Thomas · 2 years ago
    "...a new start-up..."?!? These guys are a retread from the first bubble!

    *sigh* How easily we forget...
  • Matt Marshall · 2 years ago
    ...yeah well, finally surfacing...thanks, corrected.
  • bob · 2 years ago
    What a stupid idea this system wont work every year there will be a new chris rees and chris rees will havenegative returns this year after everyone puts money with him.
  • joe · 2 years ago
    Why is anyone surprised that with 80000 players, some did well? Give me 80000 monkeys with darts and in five years, I'll give you back the four luckiest ones. The real question is whether the people who were on top after year N did well in year N+1, because that's what they're asking everyone to bet on.
  • antijava · 2 years ago
    "You can invest in the four masters at Marketocracy here"? So it started down with the M100, then downgraded to M10, and now the M4. So they are only looking at the top *4* people now? How is this different than any other mutual fund? It is called an advisory board.
  • Greg · 2 years ago
    Before investing in any of these funds, you might want to read Nassim Taleb's "Fooled by Randomness" first.
  • Clint Chao · 2 years ago
    The devil is in the details, but in this case, the details are what reveals why it is so impressive what these guys have really done (40% per year for 5 years), and it is anything but random. Their track records are for 5 years, which shows that they can invest across multiple cycles (the last 5 years in the market have been anything but consistent). Also, all Marketocracy managers must conform quarterly to standard mutual fund diversification guidelines, meaning that the performance numbers posted are for very diversified portfolios (ie. no fund can have a single holding representing >5% of the fund, which weeds out the "lucky" investors who might just buy Google or something). Does anyone know their current mutual fund manager's 5-year record?

    Ironically, it's the mutual funds in the industry that don't provide you with any detail on the manager's performance, and there are $7 trillion dollars in mutual funds. If you are intrigued with potentially a better way to make returns, then click through to educate yourself on how these guys do it.

    Marketocracy is simply providing people with a more analytical process to evaluate investor performance, and providing information that isn't available from your typical Wall Street fund manager. If you are intrigued with any of the Masters, just click on their portfolio links to find out how they managed to post up such impressive numbers. And, it's interesting to note that not one of these "top 4" managers were the #1 performer in any single year, so these managers were selected for 5-year returns.
  • Armin Stuk · 2 years ago
    Comments like: "a stupid idea... , 80000 monkeys with darts and in five years..."
    Well, I don't buy such a random thoughts at all, divination too.
    Invite all to research every imaginable
    details about best performers at marketocracy, and if you think that luck counts then try to be the best in any business, sports, if you
    will. Dear friends, the talents beats us
    any day ! Try the game !
  • Chris Rees · 2 years ago
    Reply to Bob:
    Chris Rees may well have negative returns this year, or next year, or any year. However, successful investing is a marathon, not a sprint. If you would care to stretch your negative return statement to a five year timeframe, allowing skill to overcome luck, I would welcome the opportunity to do business.

    Reply to Joe:
    If an investment manager makes money on 90% of his investments, makes twice as much on his winners as his losers, produces 30% of alpha in a near zero return market, while holding 20-25% of the portfolio value in cash for a five year timeframe, I think you’d have a pretty interesting armpit scratcher. By comparison, James Cramer and the average monkey have roughly the same track record. So what happens? They give the monkey a TV show. Increasingly, investors will need to produce more return on their capital. With conventional mutual funds wallowing in mediocrity, it becomes a smart proposition to at least consider alternative methods and vehicles where the emphasis is less on the talk and more on the walk.
  • Rik · 2 years ago
    I can attest to Mr. Rees' great stock picking skills because I have been a subscriber to his service. He not only makes great stock picks, but he picks securities that are often times obscure/overlooked but definitely priced incorrectly by the market. Unlike a lot of institutions who follow the herd and will only tout a stock that is going up technically, Mr. Rees is not afraid to buy when the stock is making a 52 week low (when the chart looks ugly). Also, if you look at his web site, tenstocks.com, you will notice that he doesn't preach anything about a stock, no Cramer-like BS, no circus side show. All you see are great picks and his performance.
  • Bob · 2 years ago
    If chris rees can show 5 year audited returns I would be interested in seeing them and then maybe doing business and how much is under management currently.
  • TheTruth · 2 years ago
    The amount of factual errors in this article are amazing. Check the facts about this company before you trust any of its data
  • Jubals · 2 years ago
    Would that be Venture Beat or Marketocracy?

    This is myfirst exposure to VB so I can say nothing about them.

    However, I have been trading on M for almost six years and can tell you that the top guys earned their way.

    I have beeninthe M100 multiple tmes, maintain top 100 funds in multiple time frames and have multiple funds ranked in the top 25%, just to give you an idea of my credibility.
  • chris · 2 years ago
    There is another site where you can test your strategies and manage a virtual portfolio: www.tradermatch.com
  • Adriana Lima · 2 years ago
    I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100% regarding Marketocracy lets you place money with the best, but it's just my opinion, which could be wrong :)
  • Blend Fund · 2 years ago
    Glad to see someone is staying on top of things.