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Whats next? Google Corporate Airlines for their employees?
that made me chuckle.
Jesus Christ....
If I had the money, and needed to go places, I would have my own private plane too... Screw driving... Screw waiting to get airline tickets and not having privacy.
So what if planes pollute the earth? U ever flown? Was it because you needed to or wanted to? Business or pleasure?
Most people fly because it's for pleasure, and I'm sure that this airplane won't just be used for pleasure.
They haven't sold out. Did they sell google to microshaft? i dont fuckin think so....
think b4 u speak.
What Andrew meant is that executive class planes are smaller, are ridiculously comfortable and elegant but are way smaller than a 767 which as he correctly stated seats between 200 to 400 passengers.
Our company does interior work on private planes that are used by Fortune 500 CEO's, oil sheiks and spoiled rock/movie stars and there is nothing a 767 has on them except size.
The Global Express XRS is a just a filthy rich palace and were redoing the inside of a Bombardier Challenger 800 corporate shuttle which seats about 50-60 people in regular is going to be used by a well known band so were gonna gonna pimp it out to make the XRS look like some ghetto dive.
if this 767 is just for personal use for a handful of people , then its a my dick is bigger thing. Its also called overcompensating.
>Most people fly because it's for pleasure,
What the F@%(^!!??
Learn to form coherent sentences before you flame others.
zeke
Kerwin...
> lol @ Andrew. I'm assuming you drive a hydrogen fueled
> vehicle? No? You are also polluting the earth too.
> Jesus Christ....
Right, except burning oil to generate hydrogen makes pretty much the same pollution as burning it in a car would, so hydrogen makes little to no difference. At best hydrogen decouples energy source and use so that in future the fossil-fuel based source can be replaced without having to reconfigure millions of engines.
Having "also" and "too" in your sentence is a little redundant - next time choose one of these.
> So what if planes pollute the earth? U ever flown? Was
> it because you needed to or wanted to? Business or
> pleasure?
OK, so I'll assume you're not just pretending to be dumb. Mike said "Isnt it 'evil' to waste so much fuel". Note: "so much". He didn't say no one should ever use any fuel and never fly for pleasure, just that a whole 767 for 2 people is too much. I'm inclined to agree, if that plane would normally seat 300 people, they're using 150 times the fuel I do when I fly. Using some fuel is fine, but an amount way, way in excess of what is needed is just greedy.
As for "So what if planes pollute the earth?", you should be able to find a book on basic ecology at your local library. Maybe while you're at it you can look up how many wars since the 70s were fought over oil.
> think b4 u speak.
Oh, the irony.
And plus, $7000 is very cheap for a plane that size (that's if the fuel already accounted for)
Add maybe a bathroom, some comfortable seats, some entertainment, and 2 men.
I don't think it's going to burn through enough fuel to contribute to global warming any more than your car does on a morning ;)
The military version of the Gulfstream V has a MTOW of 90,500 lbs.
Mind you, the Gulfstream V is an ultra long range business jet. There are lighter jets too.
Screw you guys. I hate SUVs but this is even worse.
Alex
I too hate SUVs, thse guys are being selfish towards the environment, and no big headed "Who cares about the environment" SUV driver or jet owner can tell me otherwise
Alex
That's a perk to his wage, which means this is the equivalent of a pay rise. Now we know how much they earn.
If I calcuate this correctly, all the people who bought Google shares will get $61 million less money than they expected in the coming year.
If he needs to communicate with different people how about instead of physically moving his persona, Google techs into videoconferencing? With all the dark fiber that should be a piece of cake.
p.s. Does Bill Gates have an own Jet?
Yes, Bill Gates owns a personal jet, in fact he owns multiple jets. And MS has other jets used by the likes of Ballmer as well.
The fact that the Google dudes have bought themselves a jet is in itself not surprising, anyone with enough money usually does so (what, do you expect them to live like students forever?). Mark Cuban (Broadcast.com) ordered a Gulfstream G-5 over the internet (Gulfstream had to setup a site for him to do so) as soon as the $$$ hit his bank account after selling his company to Yahoo for a few billion. I guess the reaction to the Google founders doing so is a combination of things:-
(1) Good old Envy
(2) Their holier-than-thou do-no-evil attitude so far, which was good while it lasted made them the object of scorn when finally they succumbed to temptation. Weren't they proudly showing off their hybrid Prius's a while ago?
Yes, Bill Gates owns a personal jet, in fact he owns multiple jets. And MS has other jets used by the likes of Ballmer as well.
The fact that the Google dudes have bought themselves a jet is in itself not surprising, anyone with enough money usually does so (what, do you expect them to live like students forever?). Mark Cuban (Broadcast.com) ordered a Gulfstream G-5 over the internet (Gulfstream had to setup a site for him to do so) as soon as the $$$ hit his bank account after selling his company to Yahoo for a few billion. I guess the reaction to the Google founders doing so is a combination of things:-
(1) Good old Envy
(2) Their holier-than-thou do-no-evil attitude so far, which was good while it lasted made them the object of scorn when finally they succumbed to temptation. Weren't they proudly showing off their hybrid Prius's a while ago?
Compare these two sentences:
I own google.
I own a fucking huge jet.
Now let�s do:
I own google and a fucking huge jet.
After the part where it says "I own google..." people don�t listen anymore... k?
> much the same pollution as burning it in a car would,
Actually no. Producing hydrogen for fuel cell vehicles with the technology available today currently generates 25% more pollution than producing and burning regular gas. So much for "environmentally friendly".
But since FC and Zero Emission Vehicles are the hype, the pollution generated by producing the fuel isn't really talked about loud.
Plus they get to ride in their own fucking huge jet :)
you wrote: "they're using 150 times the fuel I do when I fly"
So... Mr. "ecologically correct" ... you have decided YOU spend the correct amount of fuel.
I'd say you are a polluter who is ruining Gaia. THE CORRECT amount of fuel is that spent by a hunther-gatherer in Botswana, a certain Mr. Ng Ung-Ung.
Ng Ung-Ung DOES NOT TRAVEL outside the valley he was born. He does not burn any petroleum, does not use any asphalt, and does not consume any Evian water bottled in PET and transported across the ocean.
In fact, Mr Ung-Ung does not burn approximately 125 Watts/hr of power using a PC, like you obviously do, you monster. True, Ng's life expectancy at birth is about 35 and he is unlikely to have any teeth if he ever reaches 50.
However, Mr Un-Ung is a GREAT steward of the Gaia he inherited from his forebears (except, of course, when he and his bloodthirsty buddies kill the cute cuddy lion cubs who feed on his goats).
YOU, on the other hand, consume about 10,000 times more oil on eccentricities such as A/C, heating, and Double-Moka Tall Capuccinos.
You, sir, are a monster, and GAIA weeps because you are killing her.
Please stop traveling. Stay in your valley. Stop burning oil. Save the planet.
First of all, who knows what the configuration of the aircraft will be? With 50 first class seats, it makes sense both economically and enviromentally. Calculate the cost per seat mile. The plane is also cheap. There are quite a few parked in the desert right now and can be bought for approx 15 million, depending on engines and parts. That is a lot cheaper than a 10 seat G-5 which is at least twice the price.
For long haul, it is a great choice. No, it is not a "jumbo jet", but a wide-body or heavy jet. And John Travolta actually owns an ancient, gas guzzling Boeing 707. Now that 4 engine monster is a an enviromental nightmare.
At the end of the day, if they fly it with two passengers, then it is a waste. A small corporate jet would make more sense and be more responsible. If they fill it up with execs and fly coast to coast or to Europe, South America, etc., then it is a smart buy and fairly efficient to operate.
Now, where do I send my resume? I am a 767 pilot for a major airline and ready for a change. Seriously!! If you know, send me an email at jtt767@yahoo.com thanks
when they already have a Gulfstream?
Maybe it's not to be a passenger plane. How much space does a 767 have
in it, if you strip out all the extraneous stuff, like baggage, etc.?
Cringely points out a possible use of dark fiber for Google trailers:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html
Could Google be creating a mobile data center under the guise of "my
corporate jet is bigger than yours"? It's the perfect decoy plan. Get
everyone talking about corporate largesse to quietly develop a mobile
data center. If a significant number of Google data centers were taken
out of commission by natural disaster, terrorism, etc., Google could
conceivably move and connect the mobile data center at a private
airfield capable of handling both the jet and the connections needed
to put it online. It would by no means be a small project - but if
you're talking about the continuity of the company, the expense is
worth it.
Sounds wacky, but then, so did an MP3 player from Apple a few years ago...
If you were as clever as they are you might be out there commuting to work in a 767 too. But you might be too busy to appreciate it
Business jets are not big enough to
A) load cars in to it ** the real reason for it
or
B) live out of it if you so desire
It takes a plane that size to be able to do it
t read... they're not being charged 7k an hour for use, they're being reimbursed. In other words, the Google corporation is paying them for using the jet, ensuring that it doesn't sit idly. If they actively use it for business, they'll pay off the jet in no time.
I suggest before talking about something, get your facts straight!
Ex Venetian employee
i already have 2 318 jets