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VentureBeat: RIAA speaks on Muxtape: Illegal content

  • plateshow · 1 year ago
    utter crap, of course
  • Jay Cuthrell · 1 year ago
    Considering _all_ the songs on qthrul.muxtape.com were written, recorded, and uploaded by me... RIAA has rendered me collateral damage. And by "me" I mean me myself and I and not some clever band name.
  • Nancy · 1 year ago
    Why has the conflict between copyright owners (the members of the RIAA) and infringers (MuxTape allegedly) become farcical? It is tragic. Not because the RIAA or any other copyright owner defends their rights. Rather the reaction from the peanut gallery is the problem. Seriously, if I opened a real world shop selling products that your readers had developed, manufactured or otherwise had a fiscal interest in, and did not pay for the products would that be okay? No, I'd be sued and possibly charged with the crime of conversion (i.e. theft).

    What makes music so different from any other product? Why should new media start ups that do not go the extra mile to procure content legally be rewarded?

    (Note, I do think the major labels need to make it less complicated to license content.)
  • MG Siegler · 1 year ago
    It's farcical because this goes on and on and one...and its not going to end anytime soon. The RIAA will keep suing, but new sites will keep popping up. I'm not saying the RIAA shouldn't be protecting the artists rights, I'm saying that it's just not working. The two sides need to get together on a new business model.
  • A Musician · 1 year ago
    You're confused about what music is now a days, it's not a CD and it's not Internet Radio or Downloads, what those digital files do is advertise the bands. Without that advertising no one would see these bands live because they are a dime a dozen and since the RIAA only supports band wagon bands it seems like they would be all for someone helping their bands getting heard thus getting people coming out to the shows. Well except of course the RIAA makes money on the CD sales instead of on Tshirt sales or CD sales at shows or the cover in general. So no wonder they don't want fans of the music to advertise for free, because they don't make money that way, they make money with fees. The RIAA should be thanking people for sharing music, because it is free advertising, of course that's only if they wanted the bands to do well. The RIAA only has a stake in the middle man fees for providing an antiquated service, advertising happens by word of mouth on the internet which means tons of people hear the songs and know right away weather or not the band is worth the buck, they are leaving RIAA out of the loop, and they don't care the kind of PR package they have. The bands don't loose money, they gain fans, and if they want people coming to their fucking shows, they better fucking pray people keep being passionate about their music and sharing it with friends and like minded folks abroad.
  • JRB · 1 year ago
    The RIAA should be looking for ways to help Muxtape succeed. The recording industry needs to find some way to bring joy back to discovering and buying music again. Muxtape was on its way to being just such a solution. I agree that the RIAA should be protecting the artists rights. I thought the buy via iTunes button right next to songs worked perfectly. Maybe open it up to other choices - Amazon MP3, Rhapsody, etc...
  • SocialMediaMojo · 1 year ago
    I know exactly what's going to happen, right now muxtape is talking to audible magic or gracenote about their filtering system so that they can filter what songs appear on the site. Then when it comes back up there'll be no more tracks by any other popular artist.

    As for alternatives it shocks me that people don't know that imeem has been doing everything muxtape does since 2004, they did get sued and they installed filters, but they also spent the next year getting deals with all the record labels so that users can legally build their Rolling Stones mixtape. This has helped imeem become one of the biggest music sites on the internet
  • Matt Martin · 1 year ago
    People we can help save them. Please show your support, spread the word about SaveMuxtape.com
  • Roxy · 1 year ago
    what happen to Favtape.com is it still up?? Its not working for me. :(
  • Steve · 1 year ago
    How is Mixwith and Favtape legal and Muxtape was not? That's a ridiculous statement.
  • MG Siegler · 1 year ago
    Read again Steve, I didn't say they were legal, I said they were questionably legal, more meaning other.
  • tlrobinson · 1 year ago
    Mixwit (which Muxtape and Favetape ripped off) doesn't host music files, they get them through Seeqpod and Skreemr, which in turn get them from publicly available files on the web.

    Whether or not Mixwit or Favetape are completely legal is unclear, but Muxtape was blatantly illegal since they hosted copyrighted material.
  • MG Siegler · 1 year ago
    Exactly, that's why I said questionably legal - they do break the rule of allowing to pick what song you hear next.
  • SocialMediaMojo · 1 year ago
    Dude all those sites ripped off playlist.com, which in turn ripped off imeem.com

    both those sites have 100 times the users of muxtape.

    Playlist.com uses the 'we don't host files argument'
    imeem lets users upload but has filters to identify the content and make sure the artists get paid.