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VentureBeat: Rumor from the news doldrums of August: Mormon church trying to buy Facebook

  • MJB · 1 year ago
    This is probably not true, but the church has a history of buying cutting edge technologies and running them as separate, for-profit businesses. First publishing, then broadcast properties etc. They run them separately and generally do not get involved in programming. Church owned television stations have and do run steamy soap operas, Geraldo Rivera, Opera etc.
  • Anthony Ha · 1 year ago
    I understand why people are concerned about us running something that's probably bogus, but the fact is we've printed rumors before and we will again. That's how most Internet news works -- heck, that's how a lot of news organizations work, period, on the web or not (although things get published and spread a lot faster online). We just try to provide as much context and fact as we can, which is what Eric did here. I don't see how anyone could have read the original post and thought it was anything other than a longshot rumor.
  • Luke_S · 1 year ago
    Why would the church buy the social group? Though some think our church is taking over the world, the church would never buy things that will not help members in the church.

    The church already asks for no personal church sites off the church's own site (like a church in Enid, OK having their own website not on lds.org) and only has a large pressance on the net with it's belief site and genealogical research.

    If anything, church members maybe buying into the stock, which is like saying any religious person buying stock in Microsoft or Apple or other company. They want to make money too.

    Also, the church has a great PR department. Why haven't you contacted them about the story? I don't quite understand why you place a rumor as news without talking to the other parties about it. It's still early enough in the day to contact them.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Luke, I contacted Facebook before I started writing the story, and I haven't heard back.
  • Luke_S · 1 year ago
    Ummm, I meant the church.

    Also, if they did get in contact with you and give you information that you couldn't put up in time, I can blame the editor for over zealous posting before all sides were contacted. I've had that happen before.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    I meant Facebook. I contacted them since I know them better and figured I had a better chance of hearing back at all. I will grant you that the LDS response was impressively quick.

    W/r/t "overzealous posting" -- this is the blogosphere and anyway, my angle was that this is probably not true.
  • Utah · 1 year ago
    Re: Luke_S

    "Though some think our church is taking over the world, the church would never buy things that will not help members in the church."

    I have quick question for you. How is the 1 billion dollar mall your church is building going to help your members? Make no mistake you belong to a corparation not a religion.
    You seem to be insulted that someone would say that LDS Inc. would buy facebook. Have you ever looked at how much your "church" owns? I think it would be a good investment.

    I live in Utah and what worries me is that your corparation will buy Facebook, and then ruin it. Not on purpose, just try to enforce some barbaric kind of moral code on the site.

    Just because your PR department says you don't teach that anymore, I mean that it is not true, does not mean it is not true. Eric said it was a rumor, get over your self.
  • Luke_S · 1 year ago
    No, my point was on sourcing and making sure your opinion is expressed in a manner we all can understand. Though I do like your idea that my church is taking over facebook to add a moral code.

    I'll play your game though. LDS church buys facebook and adds a moral code to it. Everyone moves to Bebo or Friendster due to the issues. Everyone moved from MySpace after issues, what makes you think that it can't happen to facebook?

    Also, your mall comment, in the early years, the mall was needed to increase the economy of the state and the members. I recall a huge majority of Utah was mormon at that time. If you mean a new one today, I'll look into it (I live in Seattle). I have the sense not to comment on something I don't know a lot about.
  • SLC · 1 year ago
    The main purposes of the mall are to both provide a buffer to Temple Square from the encroachment of what some may call 'negative' influences in the downtown area, while still inviting more people to downtown to hopefully be able to enjoy Temple Square. Temple Square is most definitely a tourist attraction and (like it or not) a means by which the Church attempts to 'spread the word'.
  • Matt Asay · 1 year ago
    Pu-lease. If you'd care to spend a few minutes reading through archives of the Salt Lake Tribune (yes, that organ of the Mormon elite ;-), you'd know that the mall is about improving downtown for everyone (including the Church, and perhaps especially to improve the area around Temple Square). A corporation? Nah. Savvy about both temporal and spiritual matters. You bet.

    As for whether it could ruin Facebook, how could the LDS Church possibly ruin Facebook more than it already is? It's a wasteland of noise and silly applications, and only recently has attempted to grow up. Heck, I'd love to have *any* grown-up organization take over Facebook to make something useful of it. Take your pick: the Vatican, the mafia, Microsoft, ACLU, or you name it. I don't really care. Just someone that thinks there's more to social networking than status messages like "Away for the day, wondering if life could get any better."
  • Mish · 1 year ago
    A) There is no reason I can see that the Church would want Facebook. If they wanted an social community...they'd just make one of themselves. This is like the WILL IT NEVER DIE rumour of Mormons owning Coca-Cola! I STILL get slapped around with that one! Someone wants to attack the Mormon church, they throw that Coca-Cola thing in my face. Silliness. :)

    B) The City Creek Center Project (mall, residences and surrounding greenspace) will include the ZCMI department store that the church started back in 1868. Yes, our religion is also a corporation, and real estate makes good business sense. However, what everyone seems to conveniently overlook is that money goes BACK into the church providing an astounding amount of services for, not only it's members, but the entire community. Had you been to downtown SLC? Did you seen how DEAD it was? A lot of empty buildings in the middle of downtown. Quite sad. The City Creek Center, whether you agree with giant commercial/residential/green spaces or not, is meant to help revitalise the downtown area...and, OF COURSE, make money. Our business acumen is what made Salt Lake City *and* saved our Mormon heineys from homelessness and poverty! So, don't hate us because we make sound business decisions! :D
  • Marc · 1 year ago
    Here's a Mormon take on the rumor with an LDS public affairs person sounding in.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the perspective, Marc.
  • Some Guy · 1 year ago
    Man, slow news day is right.

    Like the poster above said, if you want to find out about this, check with the LDS Church's professional PR department.

    Or, you can chalk this up to other rumors about the LDS Church owning PepsiCo or as one person told me, "cheese" (as in -- all cheese?). This one, as the physicist said, "isn't even wrong." There aren't any facts here to get right. I'd expect VB to get _some_ facts before posting.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Some Guy, like I said, above, I'd contacted Facebook's PR department -- I know them a lot better than LDS's, as you might expect.

    I think I was clear in my original post about what facts I knew and didn't know. It's an interesting enough story, with enough suggestions of fact, that I thought our readers should know about it.
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    What is this, Valleywag? Come on guys - please do your research before further spreading rumors.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    I did my research as much as I was able before publishing, Jesse. Why would you have preferred I not run this? I tried to contact Facebook's PR. LDS's PR got back to Brim-DeForest well after I'd published.
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    I'd prefer it not be run because it's a rumor, and you've admitted
    that. VentureBeat I respect for good, factual stories - I appreciate
    that. Stories like this you're welcome to run - it just takes away
    from the informal articles I'm used to.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    That's a fair point. I only wrote about this because it was intriguing (to me) even if it appeared unlikely.
  • Nona · 1 year ago
    From the site linked to above:

    "This rumor has no foundation whatsoever.
    Lyman Kirkland
    Church Public Affairs"

    Way to go on the due diligence before posting, Eric. Maybe you'd like to follow-up with some odd rumors about the English royal family being lizard-people, or Jews being in a plot to take over the world?
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Please see my previous comments and the update. Thanks.
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    BTW, careful on the logo usage there - I could care less, but the logo is copyrighted and I'm not sure the Church approves people using it on non-approved sites. Especially altered versions...
  • Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins · 1 year ago
    Keep in mind, this rumor is no more outlandish than Microsoft buying Yahoo or AOL buying Time-Warner.

    Most mergers and acquisitions at the level are bizarre, this one just a bit more than usual. The rumor was semi-credible, and if we had the same rumor at Mashable, we likely would have run with it as well.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Mark.
  • Jeff · 1 year ago
    I'm a Mormon, and I think it was an interesting story to post. Of course you hadn't asked everyone in the know yet, but that's the fun of the blogosphere. I don't see any problem with that. It's one thing to spread lies maliciously, but this isn't even close to malicious. You were reporting on a story that someone else ran, you had done research and couldn't determine that it wasn't true, so you posted it. Not a big deal.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Jeff
  • John · 1 year ago
    Hey Eric,
    Since you are so eager to publish wild, unsubstantiated rumors like this, I will start forwarding you all the email I get about Bill Gates sharing his money with those who forward on email messages, how Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite, and lots of other great rumors to publish simply on the basis you heard it but have no clue as to whether there is any truth to it.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Please read the article again, John.
  • Andreas · 1 year ago
    Guys, get off his back. He isn't slamming doctorine here, let the man earn a buck without everyone on the wasatch front jumping all over him about it. Why would it matter anyway, facebook is great technology, add it to the portfolio.... or take the social media patents and leverage it to do something beneficial. I doubt they are buying it, but so what if they are.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Andreas.
  • Prestor · 1 year ago
    Even if they are just buying some employee's shares I say more power to the Mormon church for the foresight to invest in new media....
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Exactly.
  • alisamleo · 1 year ago
    @Utah...yeah, you're right there is a corporation part of the church..so? same with a lot of churches....don't get your panties in a wad. its too bad you live in utah and thats the extent of your interaction with church members, but whatever.

    @Eric as a Mormon, a blogger, twitterer, a New Yorker and social media strategist...I think your postings are great! (yes, I did just make that obnoxious "as a" statement) :)
  • Avid VB Reader · 1 year ago
    The Mormon church is an organization. Organizations invest all the time in other companies. Whether this is true or not, I do not see why such a rapidly growing internet site like Venture Beat is wasting its time with such insignificant news. If I want gossip I will read People Magazine. Regardless, this post definitely made VB lose credibility as a reputable site in my eyes. For now, I'll just stick to the WSJ for my news.
  • Eric Eldon · 1 year ago
    Reader, I'm really sorry to hear that you feel this way. As you know, we sometimes publish hot rumors in order to explain why we don't believe them. That's what I did here. You know that nearly all of my articles are focused on the facts, first. Hopefully, some of those ones will keep you reading us. :)
  • John Lynn · 1 year ago
    Seems like a simple twitter could have quelled this rumor. Any mormon could easily see that the church would never buy Facebook. At least not while it has so many pictures of half naked co-eds and so many pictures/applications associated with alcohol.

    All of that said, the idea still made me laugh. I honestly assumed that it was a comedy when one of the sources was Zach Klein, employed at comedy site CollegeHumor. I was just surprised the story was on VentureBeat and not CollegeHumor.
  • john · 1 year ago
    HA !
    i thought the LDS church had holdings of at least $29.38.
    it's just my thought and opinion.
    which is, btw, just as good as any other opinion.

    i especially like to read about people who know people who know, or think they know, some insider in some org who thinks he/she knows ........(fill in the blank)................

    blogs are ........(fill in the blank)................
  • VC Watcher · 1 year ago
    I thought it was the Church of Scientology that was planning to buy Yahoo! Are you sure you've got it right, Eric?
  • tamnation · 1 year ago
    @VC Watcher,

    L. Ron Hubbard says: "Celebrities are very Special people and have a very distinct line of dissemination. They have communication lines that others do not have and many medias [sic] to get their dissemination through."

    Clearly, the Church of $cientology, in an attempt to build the largest virtual Celebrity Centre ever seen by man, is bidding on Facebook *and* MySpace to build a fleet of poorly maintained MySpace celebrity profiles, artist pages, and lots and lots of seizure-inducing flashy graphics and scrolling text. It will be the highest bid ever made for the world's first and second greatest collection of bad grammar and poor spelling. Oh, and zombies and werewolves.

    We'll have to pay the Church to make the epileptic attacks stop.
  • Jesme · 1 year ago
    Is anybody here old enough to remember the ancient Internet gag about Microsoft buying the Roman Catholic Church? It happened 14 years ago.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/131340-6/the_top...

    Good times...good times.
  • S.G. · 1 year ago
    the person posed as "Utah" has to be one of the biggest fools to ever post on here. Do some research buddy.
  • Mary Gill · 1 year ago
    They're also teaching "history" to 10,000 schoolchildren a year in San Diego -- and they're expanding their center there into a kind of Disneyland.
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/200810...
  • edhardy622 · 2 months ago
    British law student sues Abercrombie-Fitch for disability discrimination.
    http://www.abercrombieshop.us