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Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

par7133 — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:15:34 -0000

"President, let's defeat status quo to concentrate us on innovation and creativity from now not in years.. you know the 140-character limit?"

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Phil H — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:43:42 -0000

Your article links to @fakesacca, which, in case you were wondering, is not the "official" account for Chris Sacca. I believe that you were looking for @sacca, or http://www.twitter.com/sacca

Maybe the media isn't making bad news worse, but getting the real news right would be a nice start.

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Yuri Ammosov — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:28:38 -0000

Oh, pleeese! Do not worry. They will speak to President and start making bales of money as a result of this conversation. For example, all FEMA workers will be mandated to tweet... and Google already got their man in White House as nation CIO, so expect GoogleDocts to become a federal standard in no time.

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Yuri Ammosov — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:26:23 -0000

Yep. Ask for money, money, money.

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riazrizvi — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:30:20 -0000

1. Ask them for no capital gains tax/no dividend tax on startups, to counterbalance investor fear.

2. Ask for government subsidies for entrepreneurial activity - legal services, networking events, incubation space, office computer equipment. (In the form of coupons for the self-employed).

3. Ask for an income tax holiday on the newly self-employed for one year, that everyone can take advantage of once in their lifetime (put a $100k cap if you want). It will motivate everyone to consider taking responsibility for generating economic growth.

Note: Encouraging any size company will stimulate the economy, but startups tend to grow the economy in unexplored directions (which are more likely to be non-competitive), and startup personnel tend to have higher morale (which means higher production).

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

Anthony Ha — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:55:43 -0000

I don't think a generic imperative to "Stop the pork" is very helpful, because that's something politicians hear and say all the time. Much more useful would be specifics about what we should cut, or how we can meaningfully distinguish between "pork" and "projects that stimulate that economy." Y'know, ideas that don't fit into a 140-character message.

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

Anthony Ha — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:50:27 -0000

So we should only invite moderates to the White House?

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Anthony Ha — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:49:06 -0000

Psh. There's nothing new about socialism.

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Listen to kma!!!! — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:06:12 -0000

So insightful... You obviously have insider information. I wish you had your own website – more of your no-nonsense truth speak needs to be heard! SARCASM!

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Publia Padena — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:00:06 -0000

He probably wants you there to tell them how they can make Twitter secure enough to allow constant contact in the Administration. Tell him to get on TV and tell the people "Yes! We Can!" that he won't allow the banks to fail and that he's putting his healthcare/education/tax-hike on hold until the economy settles. It's hard for people to be productive and innovative when 1) they wonder if they will ever benefit from the fruits of their 18 hours/day labor or 2) they worry that whatever they have saved up so far is going to go down the drain.

Would you be able to soldier on unless you were pretty sure Twitter would really pay off in some manner--money, fame, fabulous job offer, etc.?

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kma — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:34:00 -0000

This is a underhanded plan of their part to develop a way to get "group" conversation and ideas out abut their new socialist agenda. They aren't discussing the economic plan. They are discussing how to push people into believing that the economic plan is working!
Can you say BRAINWASHING! They have to be everywhere including twitter!

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

kma — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:31:02 -0000

OMG shut up!
This is not about economics................he is going to the White house to dicuss mass "group" conversation and brainwashing of the idiots like you into becoming good little socialists!

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kma — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:27:11 -0000

R U an FING idiot?

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messagemasseuse — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:44:33 -0000

Stop the pork. Why should we shoulder the cost of tattoo removal and badmitton courts! Americans need food, shelter and security. Those should be top priority issues if we're really talking "Change"!

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hirenpatelatl — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:32:41 -0000

I think that there are more facets to this than you're taking into account. There are several ways that crowd sourcing ideas can play a part.

1) They may already have a general plan that they want to go with. The ideas that come could be used to add nuances and marketability to the final plan. 10 words or less is great. Whatever plan they come up with has to have a BLUF (bottom line up front - stolen from manager-tools guys) message. The 10 words that fit there plan can be integrated into there marketing slogan.

2) The best idea doesn't always win. You may never get a chance to execute your idea if you can't sell it. If so we'd all have betamax players collecting dust in our entertainment centers.

3) Fundamentally, innovation is what is going to provide long-term growth to this economy. If you run a large business innovation from outside sources is not necessarily in your best interest because it may cannibalize your existing business model.

4) You're more likely to be open to ideas if you've felt your perspective has been heard (understood).

--- Cheers
http://twitter.com/hirenpat...

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Ef Rodriguez — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:45:28 -0000

Crowdsourcing policy?

While I dig the spirit of the idea, I must concur with the sentiment of the last of your favorite examples:

"We're all doomed."

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

Bob Riddell — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:17:28 -0000

Been online since when ......2006 I believe....still online and claiming
not to have made any money in the US.....yeah thats why Obama wants
Ev there....NOT !

http://twitter.com/bobriddell

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

Norbert Mayer-Wittmann — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:48:16 -0000

As I posted @Sacca (actually, to his blog post just a little while ago), I would try to raise awareness for something like http://conversative.net/blo...

:) nmw

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bob on twitter — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:04:35 -0000

concerned citizen, i while i agree that experienced business men have priceless (ummm) experience... you're still an idiot. what got us INTO this mess was CONVENTIONAL wisdom. what the world needs is INNOVATIVE PASSION. Where else would you recommend getting THAT?
- @journik

Re: Searching for the wisdom of the twits

Boff — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:57:36 -0000

Yeah. Sacca isn't exactly known for his balanced political views, either.

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Joe Szabo — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:57:26 -0000

Hold your horses there, Concerned citizen.

Some of the most powerful business leaders in the world are the ones that got us into this mess in the first place.

Inviting thought leaders like Ev Williams from Twitter goes to show the openness of this administration and their need for innovation. Clearly, input from all angles is needed, but to say that inviting innovation is ridiculous is totally offside.

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blackburnrovers — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:55:12 -0000

Actually, I think it's a good idea to invite Evan, and others like him. Many big businesses have showed us over and over again, that the desire for profit and the cloak of secrecy, has led to immoral, unethical, and in some cases, illegal behavior.

We need more transparency in business, and Twitter is headed towards that, as are other companies who believe that doing the right thing, is an essential part of their business strategy. It's indeed, how you attract more clients, do more business, AND help the world.

For more on business who do the right thing AND make money, see the company, Patagonia, and read their founder's book, Let My People Go Surfing: http://tinyurl.com/9vea2x

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Concerned citizen — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:37:25 -0000

This is ridiculous. How about inviting some business leaders that run businesses that actually make money? Their leadership is what's needed. Sickening.