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its really really nice looking. =]
I've got a HTC TyTN II here running WM6.1 and I wouldn't call it "nice looking" at all. In fact I wouldn't call the TyTN2 a very good phone or WM6.1 a very good phone OS at all. I actually think WM6.0 was a little better, as it happens.
When my phone contract is next up for renewal, I'll probably ditch WM devices. Not sure yet what I'll get instead, but WM6.1 is a big helping of failsauce from what I can see at the moment.
There are nearly 3 billion phone out there and very few of them are iphones or androids.
A little perspective please.
I know everyone is desperate for good news, but really the android isn't even news - yet.
Seeing we are entering/in a depression I doubt that consumers are going to be rushing out in their billions to buy either the iphone or the android in a hurry.
This won't stop companies from renting a crowd to line up next time they release a product, but it should give you pause for thought before you throw your money at them.
Google's share price should be about $275, and Apple is overpriced. Mark my words.
If you compare the Mobile6 Plattform to the software of the iPhone, it looks like WfW 3.11.
Nokia has realised that there is no money in the software platform, thus intends to give Symbian away as OSS. Android is OSS, and Apple uses it's OS X SW to flog it's hardware, this has always been the "Apple strategy". Where does that leave the MS Mobile platform? Since there are currently myths in the making of how some independent developers have earned huge amounts money with Apple's App Store, I don't see MS gaining much ground with developers. IMHO we will see the MS Plattform slide to under 10% share of the mobile phone market by summer 2010.
1. IE 6! SIX! How many years will that be out of date by 2010? This is a seriously disrespectful flip-off to anyone who might buy it.
2. That screenshot is ugly as f***!
They're making everyone wait that long for a warmed-over pile of poop? If I were tied to Windows Mobile, I would be steaming mad.
Secondly, that screen shot isn't accurate...Windows mobile has never been available on a wide screen device however, Windows CE was. Someone photo shopped that into existence.
Furthermore, for all you Mac hippies out there who continue to think you're going to take over the PC market with every microscopic shift of market share...THE IPHONE SUCKS!!! It's Apple's lame attempt at telling you what you want to do. It has nowhere near the capabilities of Windows Mobile.
And finally, for all the conspiracy theorists out there....Microsoft is likely kicking back their release of Windows Mobile 7 for two reasons as stated below:
1 - Operational screen shots of Windows Mobile 7 hit the internet earlier this year, while they may be fake, they do carry incredible likelihood to Microsoft's visual style, and as such Microsoft would be inclined to redesign the interface so as not to relax any excitement for their new product.
2 - Microsoft has been in a tight battle as a result of the inefficiencies of releasing a new operating system when having to coordinate with both the phone manufacturer and carrier. As a result, Microsoft is (as stated publicly) discussing what measures can be taken to ensure the timely delivery of OS upgrades, fixes, and enhancements to end users.
Say all you want about Windows Mobile devices, but I can do a lot more on my phone than you can on your iPhone.
I meant "likeness"
Just a bad versioning thing... WM version numbers a little behind desktop.
The corporate entities that tie-in their Mobile devices within the scope of Active Directory, Domain/Application Controllers, etc... the wait for this won't be that big of a deal. Trying to implement such inter-connectivity with I-Phone is very difficult within the confines of Apple's Enterprise offerings (is there any?) (no im not talking about sharing music or photo's of my friends...), I would lean towards Android because of the possibilities J2EE provides (the original Enterprise architecture), again, to wait an additional year is not a big deal in my opinion.
1. IE 6! SIX! How many years will that be out of date by 2010? This is a seriously disrespectful flip-off to anyone who might buy it."
im sorry to single you out amy, because im not trying to start a flame war. however, i think i know why nobody was commenting on what was only obvious to you and a couple other people.
first of all, the article states that the screenshot is showing Explorer6 rendering in IEMobile on Windows Mobile 6.2 due out in late '08 or early '09. It is not the Windows Mobile 7 released in late '09 or early '10 like the rest of the article talks about and you confused the screenshot for.
second of all, to give my opinion, i think your "ugly screenshot" looks not so bad compared to the current WM 6.1 like on my Blackjack II. I could also comment towards people like george who claimed a certain touchscreen phone caused a "noticeable positive impact on quality of life". I guess that means I been living a higher quality life even longer since windows mobile has had touchscreen phones for years. I was using handwriting recognition, voice dialing, MMS and video, and reading apple's website on my touchscreen Windows Mobile PocketPC before anyone had heard of an iPhone.
lastly, i hope i did not come off too much as a fanboy for M$ or Windows as i really prefer Open Source Software like GNU/Linux such as the Google Android OS is based on (really has my attention).
however, i must also point out that people forget that Apples iPhone OS is based on OS X which is based on Steve Jobs' OS NeXT which was based on FreeBSD. i feel that Apple should have a more open development kit for the iPhone as is based on community-driven software. now they choose what gets developed on their platform without releasing clearly their changes. Richard Stallman who created the popular Open-Source license the GPL also made comments similar to these when he talked about 'tivoization'. He tried to correct this in GPL v.3 which was released the same day as the iPhone. please look into it.
one last thing that really gets me is people forget that Windows Mobile is based on WindowsCE, and is NOT based on the desktop versions like Windows XP or Vista. in fact, unlike the desktop version, many parts of WindowsCE including the kernel is open source, similar to the linux kernel. this is done so the manufactures can change the kernel easily to run on their various hardware platforms and architectures which vary by manufactures (of in this case, cellphones).
personally, as i see cellphones with internet usage taking over desktop usage soon, and most of the developing world will first see the internet from a mobile device (like a cellphone or ultra-portable). i look forward to competition from all Mobile Platforms including Palm, Nokia, Apple, to RIM (maker of blackberry) Google, and all others not mentioned!
.... sorry about the rant.
As much as certain people hate MS the truth is that the vast majority of work computers use MS OS, Servers and desktop apps. If you want to be 100% compatible then iPhone, RIM et all isn't going to do it for you (I know I'm a business user and I have a Blackberry bold sitting in my office desk gathering dust while I use my HTC Raph).
So the delayed release of WinMo7 only affects business users such as myself in that I hate the UI of 6.1 and I would like 7 NOW. Does the delay mean my company are going to switch to providing iPhones for the managers and engineers??? Hell No!!! If I need to create a specific little application for a specific purpose can I do it for an iPhone??? Hell No!!! Could I do it easily for a RIM device?? Hell No!!! Maybe it's possible for Android as it's Linux based but that remains to be seen. My point is the easy availability of development tools for Windows applications is also a factor in the decision which platform to invest in.
The easy availability of software for the WinMo platform is another big plus. I travel world-wide on business. You find me a turn-by-turn satnav application for iPhone or RIM where I can download maps for every country I happen to be visiting at the time and install it on my device?? I think you'll have a hard job finding one. On WinMo there at at least 3 that offer close to world-wide coverage and I'm sure there are more.
So to paraphrase a famous quote for business customers, “the demise of MS has been greatly exaggerated!"
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